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House Panel Releases Rove, Miers Interview Transcripts
By Andrew Ramonas | August 11, 2009 2:38 pm

The House Judiciary Committee released today the transcripts from interviews it had with former White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove and ex-White House Counsel Harriet Miers along with more than 5,400 pages of Bush White House documents. Rove and Miers testified before the panel about the 2006 U.S. Attorney purge.

Read the transcripts and documents here.

Here’s the news release from the office of House Judiciary Committee Chair John Conyers (D-Mich.)

House Judiciary Committee Releases Rove and Miers Interview Transcripts and Over 5,400 Pages of Bush White House Documents

Conyers: White House “Driving Force” Behind US Attorney Firings

House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers, Jr. (D-Mich.) today released over 700 pages of on-the-record interview transcripts of Karl Rove and Harriet Miers on the US Attorney firings and the Bush Administration’s politicization of the Department of Justice.  Conyers also released over 5,400 pages of Bush White House and Republican National Committee emails on these subjects.

The released materials reveal that White House officials were deeply involved in the US Attorney firings and the Administration made a concerted effort to hide that fact from the American people.  “After all the delay and despite all the obfuscation, lies, and spin,” Conyers said, “this basic truth can no longer be denied:  Karl Rove and his cohorts at the Bush White House were the driving force behind several of these firings, which were done for improper reasons.  Under the Bush regime, honest and well-performing US Attorneys were fired for petty patronage, political horsetrading and, in the most egregious case of political abuse of the US Attorney corps – that of US Attorney Iglesias – because he refused to use his office to help Republicans win elections.  When Mr. Iglesias said his firing was a ‘political fragging,’ he was right.”

Key new facts revealed in the materials released today include:

•    2005 White House “Decision” to fire David Iglesias – It has previously been known that New Mexico Republicans pressed for Iglesias to be removed because they did not like his decisions on vote fraud cases.  New White House documents show that Rove and his office were involved in this effort no later than May 2005 (months earlier than previously known) – for example, in May and June 2005, Rove aide Scott Jennings sent emails to Tim Griffin (also in Rove’s office) asking “what else I can do to move this process forward” and stressing that “I would really like to move forward with getting rid of NM US ATTY.” In June 2005, Harriet Miers emailed that a “decision” had been made to replace Iglesias.  At this time, DOJ gave Iglesias top rankings, so this decision was clearly not just the result of the White House following the Department’s lead as Rove and Miers have maintained.

•    Iglesias criticized by Rove aide for not “doing his job on” Democratic Congressional Candidate Patricia Madrid  – An October 2006 email chain begun by Representative Heather Wilson criticized David Iglesias for not bringing politically useful public corruption prosecutions in the run up to the 2006 elections.  Scott Jennings forwarded Wilson’s email to Karl Rove and complained that Iglesias had been “shy about doing his job on Madrid,” Wilson’s opponent in the 2006 Congressional race.  Just weeks after this email, Iglesias’ name was placed on the final firing list.

•    An “agitated” Rove pressed Harriet Miers to do something about Iglesias just weeks before Iglesias was placed on the removal list – Karl Rove phoned Harriet Miers during a visit to New Mexico in September 2006 – according to Miers’ testimony, Rove was “agitated” and told her that Iglesias was “a serious problem and he wanted something done about it.”

•    Senator Domenici personally asked Bush’s Chief of Staff Josh Bolten to have Iglesias replaced In October 2006, Senator Domenici stepped up his campaign to have Iglesias replaced.  According to White House phone logs and emails, as well as Rove’s own testimony, Domenici spoke with President Bush’s Chief of Staff Josh Bolten about Iglesias on October 5, 2006, and during October 2006, Domenici or his staff spoke with Karl Rove at least 4 times.

•    Todd Graves removed in Rove-approved deal with Republican Senator – Kansas City US Attorney Todd Graves was removed as part of a White House-brokered deal with US Senator Kit Bond.  In exchange for the Administration firing Graves, Senator Bond agreed to lift his hold on an Arkansas judge nominated to the Eighth Circuit federal appeals court. A White House email stated that “Karl is fine” with the proposal.

•    Miers obtained favorable statement on Rick Renzi in violation of DOJ policy – When rumors of the FBI investigation of Rep. Rick Renzi surfaced in October, 2006, one of Rove’s subordinates contacted Harriet Miers, who called Deputy Attorney General McNulty seeking a possible statement that would have “vindicated” Renzi.  Even though this was contrary to standard DOJ policy, such a statement was issued several days later.

“I have provided a copy of the materials released today to special U.S. Attorney Nora Dannehy to assist in her effort to determine whether federal criminal charges are appropriate and to pursue any such charges,” said Conyers.  “In the meantime, the Committee has honored its pledge to get on-the-record statements from Karl Rove and Harriet Miers, as well as the relevant White House documents, and is pleased to make this unprecedented collection of Bush Administration materials directly available to the American people by posting it online.

“I am especially grateful to the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, and the House Democratic leadership for their strong and unwavering support of this investigation, including the citations for contempt of Congress issued by the House in 2008.  I also thank all members who voted in support of those citations and authorized the historic litigation that was instrumental in bringing us to this point.  Today’s release marks a powerful victory for the rule of law, and should be celebrated by all who cherish our constitutional system of separation of powers and open, transparent government.”

An electronic copy of the materials released can be found on the Committee’s website at http://judiciary.house.gov/issues/issues_WHInterviews.html.  The release is pursuant to an agreement reached in March 2009 between the Committee and the former Bush Administration, with the assistance of the Obama Administration, to resolve the Committee’s lawsuit and the contempt citations issued by the Judiciary Committee and the full House of Representatives with respect to the refusal of the Bush Administration to produce subpoenaed White House documents or permit the testimony of former White House officials Karl Rove and Harriet Miers on the U.S. Attorney firings.


1 May 2,2005, email from Scott Jennings to Tim Griffin (HJC 00173); June 9,2005, email from Harriet Miers to Leslie Fahrenkopf (HJC 00177);  June 28, 2005, email from Scott Jennings to Tim Griffin (HJC 00180).

2 October 15, 2006, email chain including Heather Wilson, Steve Bell, Scott Jennings, Karl Rove and others (HJC 00340-41).

3 Miers Interview Transcript at 40-48.

4 Josh Bolten phone log (HJC 00489); October 10, 2006, email from Scott Jennings to Karl Rove (HJC 00334); Karl Rove phone log (HJC 00490); Rove Interview Transcript 123-24.

5 December 21, 2005, email from Richard Klingler to Harriet Miers (HJC 00194-A).

6 October 24, 2006, email from Harriet Miers to Scott Jennings (HJC 00344-45).

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